When I launch Gimp.app, it bounces 1 time and dies I have a 10.5.3 Mac I'm trying to test Gimp 2.4.5. I installed OS X from the original 10.5.0 DVD and upgraded it with the major combo updates up to 10.5.3. No 3rd party X11 patches or mods have been made. Apple's site dont seem to have any new X11 updates or patches available. Im running X.Org version 18.104.22.1683(207) I'm running X11.app version 2.1.1 that I installed it with the original install of OS X from the DVD. I havent re-ran any Apple X11 installers or packages. According to the Xqq.app "About X11" box: X11.app 2.1.1 - (xorg-server 1.3.0-apple5) When I launch Gimp.app, it bounces 1 time and dies. No crash logs are created. Here's the console log output: 6/4/08 12:15:52 PM [0x0-0x6c36c3].org.gimp.Gimp / 6/4/08 12:15:52 PM [0x0-0x6c36c3].org.gimp.Gimp Could not get password database information for UID of current process: Failed to get groups for username "dds" primary GID 1580659170: Unknown error: 0 6/4/08 12:15:52 PM [0x0-0x6c36c3].org.gimp.Gimp Failed to start message bus: Memory allocation failure in message bus 6/4/08 12:15:52 PM [0x0-0x6c36c3].org.gimp.Gimp EOF in dbus-launch reading address from bus daemon 6/4/08 12:15:52 PM [0x0-0x6c36c3].org.gimp.Gimp No matching processes belonging to you were found Looks like permissions problems to me. Im logged in as a local admin user (dds). The Mac is bound to AD 2003. The app is running locally from /Applications. I am the owner of the app and I have full access to the app: drwxr-xr-x 3 dds admin 102 Mar 31 09:40 Gimp.app The Mac is an Intel iMac 20" (2007). I have reproduced the problem on other Intel Macs running 10.5.3 too. Do I need to update something? I figured 10.5.3 would make any needed updates to their X11. In fact, I dont see ANY stand-alone X11 (Leopard) installers from Apple, other than the optional metapackage on the 10.5 DVD Apple's Ben Byers says "• In Leopard, Apple changed the location of the system xinitrc (to match other X.org distributions on other platforms), and they removed xterm from that file. The reason is because in Leopard, the X11.app in /Applications/Utilities is just a little wrapper around the command "/usr/bin/login -fp $USER /usr/X11/bin/xterm". So it's a "launcher" that launches xterm by default. And the starting of xterm then triggers the startup of the real server, which is now located at /usr/X11/X11.app" This statement appears to be incorrect at least on my 10.5.3 Macs. I dont see /usr/X11/X11.app: m0071a1x88:bin dds$ ls -l /usr/X11 total 0 drwxr-xr-x 114 root wheel 3876 May 29 08:31 bin drwxr-xr-x 12 root wheel 408 May 29 08:33 include drwxr-xr-x 305 root wheel 10370 May 29 08:32 lib drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 May 29 08:31 libexec drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 204 May 31 03:18 man drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 204 Oct 26 2007 share drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 Sep 23 2007 var ???