Gimp 2.4.5 fails to launch on Leopard 10.5.3?

[dds]

When I launch Gimp.app, it bounces 1 time and dies

I have a 10.5.3 Mac I'm trying to test Gimp 2.4.5. I installed OS X from the original 10.5.0 DVD and upgraded it with the major combo updates up to 10.5.3. No 3rd party X11 patches or mods have been made. Apple's site dont seem to have any new X11 updates or patches available.

Im running X.Org version 6.8.99.903(207)
I'm running X11.app version 2.1.1 that I installed it with the original install of OS X from the DVD. I havent re-ran any Apple X11 installers or packages.
According to the Xqq.app "About X11" box: X11.app 2.1.1 - (xorg-server 1.3.0-apple5)

When I launch Gimp.app, it bounces 1 time and dies. No crash logs are created. Here's the console log output:

6/4/08 12:15:52 PM [0x0-0x6c36c3].org.gimp.Gimp[29864] /
6/4/08 12:15:52 PM [0x0-0x6c36c3].org.gimp.Gimp[29864] Could not get password database information for UID of current process: Failed to get groups for username "dds" primary GID 1580659170: Unknown error: 0
6/4/08 12:15:52 PM [0x0-0x6c36c3].org.gimp.Gimp[29864] Failed to start message bus: Memory allocation failure in message bus
6/4/08 12:15:52 PM [0x0-0x6c36c3].org.gimp.Gimp[29864] EOF in dbus-launch reading address from bus daemon
6/4/08 12:15:52 PM [0x0-0x6c36c3].org.gimp.Gimp[29864] No matching processes belonging to you were found


Looks like permissions problems to me. Im logged in as a local admin user (dds). The Mac is bound to AD 2003. The app is running locally from /Applications. I am the owner of the app and I have full access to the app:

drwxr-xr-x 3 dds admin 102 Mar 31 09:40 Gimp.app


The Mac is an Intel iMac 20" (2007). I have reproduced the problem on other Intel Macs running 10.5.3 too.

Do I need to update something? I figured 10.5.3 would make any needed updates to their X11. In fact, I dont see ANY stand-alone X11 (Leopard) installers from Apple, other than the optional metapackage on the 10.5 DVD

Apple's Ben Byers says "• In Leopard, Apple changed the location of the system xinitrc (to match other X.org distributions on other platforms), and they removed xterm from that file. The reason is because in Leopard, the X11.app in /Applications/Utilities is just a little wrapper around the command "/usr/bin/login -fp $USER /usr/X11/bin/xterm". So it's a "launcher" that launches xterm by default. And the starting of xterm then triggers the startup of the real server, which is now located at /usr/X11/X11.app"


This statement appears to be incorrect at least on my 10.5.3 Macs. I dont see /usr/X11/X11.app:

m0071a1x88:bin dds$ ls -l /usr/X11
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 114 root wheel 3876 May 29 08:31 bin
drwxr-xr-x 12 root wheel 408 May 29 08:33 include
drwxr-xr-x 305 root wheel 10370 May 29 08:32 lib
drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 May 29 08:31 libexec
drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 204 May 31 03:18 man
drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 204 Oct 26 2007 share
drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 Sep 23 2007 var

[Auria]

Hi, on the downloads page there is a huge warning about the X11 from OS X 10.5.0 install disks being too old, I'm surprised you missed it

Anyway, you should be able to get it to work by following our intall guide (in short: install XQuartz 2.2)

--> http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki

[dds]

Hi, on the downloads page there is a huge warning about the X11 from OS X 10.5.0 install disks being too old, I'm surprised you missed it

Anyway, you should be able to get it to work by following our intall guide (in short: install XQuartz 2.2)

--> http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki

Thanks Auria. Yes,I read the info you mentioned. I cant install XQuartz 2.2 on my 200 Macs only to have it broken by Apple with 10.5.4. Not an acceptable solution in the Enterprise.

My point was that Im surprised that 10.5.1, 10.5.2 or 10.5.3 havent made the appropriate changes to "fix" these issues (or unify Apples build with this project). I just wanted to verify this. Some of the info here on this site (and some of the others including Ben's info) is a little outdated and I wanted to make sure I understood the current X11 environment. Not many X11 sites have been updated to reflect changes in 10.5.3 (according to my evaluation, the 10.5.3 installer package do makes changes to both /usr/X11 and /Applications/Utilities/X11.app, and Im still trying to figure out exactly what has changed)

[Auria]

Actually, I am myself on OS X 10.4... sadly, this community became rather inactive except me, so I would need the help of a 10.5.3 user to update the docs

Anyway, you should be able by getting to work with Apple's packages, just don't use those from an OS X 10.5.0 disk (or re-update your system after installing them)