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Tablet Pressure, Adobe Weirdness, Individual Dynamic Control

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  1. Gpooj

    Gpooj New Member

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    I got a tablet for fun because it was a good price, and it came with some version of PS.

    Now, my tablet works perfectly in Gimp and PS, although I must admit that Gimp handles the various control points better (last selected tool for each input device retains and auto-switches when you switch devices).

    In PS, even though I do not have my hardness effected by my pen pressure, it clearly does affect it anyway. That seems to be true for how PS works in general. If you have 100% hardness in a brush, but make it very small, the hardness seems to decrease with the brush size. So, a 100% hardness 2px diameter brush, when using pen-pressure to control size, will look like a 2px brush with 20% hardness.

    Gimp however, seems to give you exactly what you tell it to. So, your brush size can't go smaller than 1px, and if you have 100% hardness it never goes soft, no matter how small you've got your brush scaled.

    This would be great, but I like having my brush hardness taper off when my pen-pressure is dictating a very small brush, that way I can get a more natural fade at the end of strokes. Sure I could accomplish this by adding hardness to the brush dynamic, but I don't want it changing at the same rate as my diameter.

    Is there a way to control things more specifically in Gimp? Like setting the effect level of each dynamic individually?
     
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    Re: Tablet Pressure, Adobe Weirdness, Individual Dynamic Con

    The small "ladders" next to the fields in the brush settings dialog display the value of the certain effect you chose left to it.

    As far as I understand, that should help you with your problem.
     
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    Re: Tablet Pressure, Adobe Weirdness, Individual Dynamic Con

    That lets you choose how much Pressure, Velocity, or Random will scale the value, but doesn't let you individually control the Hardness or Size.

    So, if I want both size and hardness to be altered by pen-pressure, those check-boxes are scaled by the same "ladders".

    Unless I'm mistaken, the menu looks like this:
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                 Opacity   Size Hardness  Color
    Pressure:     [    ]   [ X ]  [  X  ]  [    ]    [%]
    Velocity:     [    ]   [   ]  [     ]  [    ]    [%]
    Random:       [    ]   [   ]  [     ]  [    ]    [%]
    
    So, there is only one percentage option per row, but in one row I can choose both Size and Hardness. So, Size and Hardness are both applied to the same level as each other on pressure, velocity, or random events.

    I want them to change at a different rate.
     
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    Re: Tablet Pressure, Adobe Weirdness, Individual Dynamic Con

    Hm .. you could try updating to 2.7, it has an updated version of options, as you can see here:
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    I don't know whether that gives you your desired options, but that's the only thing I could think of right now ...
     
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    Re: Tablet Pressure, Adobe Weirdness, Individual Dynamic Con

    I'm using windows, there doesn't look like there is an installer for that yet.

    Ah well.

    That aside, has anyone else noticed that a simple circular brush in Gimp will be far more coarse and... say, pixel-y, than that same circular brush in PS?
     
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    Re: Tablet Pressure, Adobe Weirdness, Individual Dynamic Con

    for 2.7 look at this :p <a class="postlink" href="http://www.gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1665&start=70" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 5&start=70</a>

    havnt used Ps :/
     
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    Maffe811 The forum pet Staff Member

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    Re: Tablet Pressure, Adobe Weirdness, Individual Dynamic Con

    Isnt there a 2.7.1, 2.7.2 and 2.7.3 Pertha installer ?
     
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    Re: Tablet Pressure, Adobe Weirdness, Individual Dynamic Con

    Partha

    and yes, all windows builds
     
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    Re: Tablet Pressure, Adobe Weirdness, Individual Dynamic Con

    DAMNIT! Thats why i couldnt find it at google :p
    My FF cache was slowing down facebook so i accedentaly cleared more than i wanted, so the log entry disapeared -.-
     
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    Re: Tablet Pressure, Adobe Weirdness, Individual Dynamic Con

    Ah cool, this Partha site looks great!

    Why isn't this linked on the gimp site?
     
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    Re: Tablet Pressure, Adobe Weirdness, Individual Dynamic Con

    it's an unofficial release, ;)
     
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    Re: Tablet Pressure, Adobe Weirdness, Individual Dynamic Con

    Hmm, somehow my tablet doesn't work properly in Partha's release, pressure isn't being sensed.

    Also, when switching input devices it doesn't swap to the last tool that device used. I can't find a menu setting for that either.
     

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